Capt. Kathleen Wilder- Female Green Beret

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[LTC TANKER]

She attended, but did not graduate. She sued in court and got a certificate of completion. She used a loophole in the regs, at the time, to get into the school. The reg was strengthened after this to keep females out of it.

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[LTC William E. Bailey]

There are many rumors about Kathleen Wilder's foray into Special Forces training, some true and some untrue. She was an Intelligence officer assigned to 5th Special Forces Group, at that time stationed at Ft Bragg, NC. The 5th SFG(A) has since moved to Ft Campbell, KY. She was young, attractive, intelligent, and physically fit. She researched the regulations and the school requirements and nowhere did it say women could not attend. She applied to the school and was admitted either because of an error in admissions or because they couldn't legally keep her out. She attended all three phases of the course, but during the last week of the final phase she and two male students were caught caching their rucksacks. That is, she and her compatriots were not carrying the rucksacks as required by the instructors, but hiding them to pick up at a later time and date in what is referred to as a Mission Support Site (MSS). She and the other two students were dropped from the course ostensibly for cheating. It has been rumored that the hierarchy was looking for a reason to boot her out of the course. CPT Wilder then hired a civilian lawyer and sued the US Government and the Special Warfare Center & School for sex discrimination. Her lawyer pointed out that it was part of the curriculum to teach the use of an MSS, and that the Command was only looking for a reason to boot her out. The court agreed and the Command was ordered to provide her a course completion certificate, which they did. CPT Wilder never spent a single day in a Special Forces unit after that, as she was reassigned to attend the career course for Intelligence officers at Ft Huachuca, AZ, and then went on to other duties, until she left the military some years later.

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so------- she's really a Green Beret then? She passed the Q course and everything?!

I'm thinking if girls can at least make it to the last week of Specops training, they can at least make it through infantry school (??).

[LTC William E. Bailey]

A Green Beret is a hat. CPT Kathleen Wilder is not now nor has she ever been a hat. CPT Kathleen Wilder was authorized to wear a green beret while she was assigned to 5th Special Forces Group (ABN), since at that time it was unit issue and everyone assigned to a Special Forces unit, including the cooks and mechanics, wore the unit issued clothing and accoutrements. She never had her Branch changed to Special Forces, she has never been awarded the Special Forces Tab, and she was never awarded the Special Forces identifier. There is a considerable difference between receiving a graduation diploma and a course completion certificate. It isn't a given that because one girl made it almost through SF training, that "girls" can make it through Infantry training. There has never been any question that an infinitesimally small number of women could complete Infantry, Ranger, or SF training; however, that still doesn't make it a good idea.

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[LTC William E. Bailey]

Obviously she didn't make it through Robin Sage if she was dropped from the course for cheating while in Robin Sage. SERE School was a separate school at that time, and to the best of my knowledge she never attended another SOF School at SWCS.

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